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RE: More card analysis 03-12-2016, 10:08 PM
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I also wonder why this got a 1 star. Also BPK'sanalysis.

The analysis may not be perfect but at least they tried to make one to help out all the players.

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RE: More card analysis 03-12-2016, 11:07 PM
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(03-12-2016 09:49 PM)hanspanette Wrote:  well done!
i don't understand why someone give you 1 star, but i think your work is fine and a good reference for players to determine their cards' value. so i gave you more stars and hope you could con't the work if you have time.
yeah I will have time to do more. I'm still a high school student so I'm not that busy. Same with bpk.

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RE: More card analysis 03-13-2016, 12:19 AM
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(03-12-2016 11:43 AM)Bloodyprokiller Wrote:  
(03-12-2016 11:26 AM)Xenartrus Wrote:  
(03-12-2016 11:10 AM)Bloodyprokiller Wrote:  
(03-12-2016 10:47 AM)Xenartrus Wrote:  Uhm. Fire is kind of a wrong type for Arcana to counter (IMO) since most of its physical casters, Nefarran and Duma kind of limits him with just one kill. At best Arcana plays quite the same with Fire when it is against Earth.

On the other hand. Arcana works well against most of the following: lightning, light, and mecha due to having lots of physical casters in its latest rosters of cards.

Just my two cents as a wind user Smile
He has shadow deft step, so duma cant hurt him at all. Laevateinn can be deft stepped...
Nefarran is indeed annoying to most cards.

Hmm, but Arcana can't ohko Duma, not to mention Duma has Revive and Persevere as back up. That is why I said this limits Arcana, unless he saps Duma, there is a high chance his mp would deplete before he kills him, and Duma would then scratch him to death lol. The same goes with Nefarran's entrust, it renders Arcana useless for the next card.

I compared Fire with Earth since GJT is a bomb, this kills Arcana. Last versions probably, fire (Ra) and Earth (Freyr, Danntag, and Grandes Jorasses) were really weak against Arcana, but now new cards can replace them XD. Poison is also relative to Arcana, if it finds Neo Chaos after the card Arcana saps, a double kill is ensured lol. If not, let us say Poison cards arent that friendly with Wind Cards :<
Oh that is so true, my neo is on a killing spree till he meets one of your patissiere Robins or archmages xD
IMO Greater Chimera is better then Neo because of Healing Light/Blood Gambit. He can't be Deft Stepped and he can beat some cards that Quick Pinch him like Jyestha and Arch Gabriel and can also beat the Paimon's

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RE: More card analysis 03-13-2016, 12:21 AM
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(03-13-2016 12:19 AM)Raisumo13 Wrote:  
(03-12-2016 11:43 AM)Bloodyprokiller Wrote:  
(03-12-2016 11:26 AM)Xenartrus Wrote:  
(03-12-2016 11:10 AM)Bloodyprokiller Wrote:  
(03-12-2016 10:47 AM)Xenartrus Wrote:  Uhm. Fire is kind of a wrong type for Arcana to counter (IMO) since most of its physical casters, Nefarran and Duma kind of limits him with just one kill. At best Arcana plays quite the same with Fire when it is against Earth.

On the other hand. Arcana works well against most of the following: lightning, light, and mecha due to having lots of physical casters in its latest rosters of cards.

Just my two cents as a wind user Smile
He has shadow deft step, so duma cant hurt him at all. Laevateinn can be deft stepped...
Nefarran is indeed annoying to most cards.

Hmm, but Arcana can't ohko Duma, not to mention Duma has Revive and Persevere as back up. That is why I said this limits Arcana, unless he saps Duma, there is a high chance his mp would deplete before he kills him, and Duma would then scratch him to death lol. The same goes with Nefarran's entrust, it renders Arcana useless for the next card.

I compared Fire with Earth since GJT is a bomb, this kills Arcana. Last versions probably, fire (Ra) and Earth (Freyr, Danntag, and Grandes Jorasses) were really weak against Arcana, but now new cards can replace them XD. Poison is also relative to Arcana, if it finds Neo Chaos after the card Arcana saps, a double kill is ensured lol. If not, let us say Poison cards arent that friendly with Wind Cards :<
Oh that is so true, my neo is on a killing spree till he meets one of your patissiere Robins or archmages xD
IMO Greater Chimera is better then Neo because of Healing Light/Blood Gambit. He can't be Deft Stepped and he can beat some cards that Quick Pinch him like Jyestha and Arch Gabriel and can also beat the Paimon's
Yeah but hes weak against squishies. I have both G chim and neo chaos and i switch their position compared to who i play against

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RE: More card analysis 03-13-2016, 12:36 AM
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(03-12-2016 08:20 PM)Agent42 Wrote:  My thoughts.
Other than nefarrans, duma, and ra all fire guardians are elemental. Little garnet is a physical but Deft step cant evade her attacks. Vulcan uses GS. Archmage Arcana can only take out 2 fire opponents if one of them is nefarran. An acer AA cant beat duma, maybe wise can do. Seriously duma's revive works 100% of the time lol and there's also entrust.

Overall we can say that AA has a chance to beat 2 fire cards. But there is also a risk of having asuras where AA can be beaten... I think AA has a higher chance beating 2 against light decks than fire decks IMO

Hmm for virsago, i think i understand why he's only B. Too many imp users, shadow mind rifts and divine shield nowadays. He's still annoying and deadly though lol.

I noticed that you only put sexy type on vulcan. Yes sexy vulcan is a good type
Sexy is a decent type for arcana and virsago IMO
Other than those, sexy is a bad type for the rest of them

Yet, Neo Chaos is S+ =))) which is the same weakness as virsago lol. Ahahah

Good job still tho Smile

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RE: More card analysis 03-13-2016, 12:44 AM
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(03-13-2016 12:36 AM)Xenartrus Wrote:  
(03-12-2016 08:20 PM)Agent42 Wrote:  My thoughts.
Other than nefarrans, duma, and ra all fire guardians are elemental. Little garnet is a physical but Deft step cant evade her attacks. Vulcan uses GS. Archmage Arcana can only take out 2 fire opponents if one of them is nefarran. An acer AA cant beat duma, maybe wise can do. Seriously duma's revive works 100% of the time lol and there's also entrust.

Overall we can say that AA has a chance to beat 2 fire cards. But there is also a risk of having asuras where AA can be beaten... I think AA has a higher chance beating 2 against light decks than fire decks IMO

Hmm for virsago, i think i understand why he's only B. Too many imp users, shadow mind rifts and divine shield nowadays. He's still annoying and deadly though lol.

I noticed that you only put sexy type on vulcan. Yes sexy vulcan is a good type
Sexy is a decent type for arcana and virsago IMO
Other than those, sexy is a bad type for the rest of them

Yet, Neo Chaos is S+ =))) which is the same weakness as virsago lol. Ahahah

Good job still tho Smile
Thats cuz neo is faster, stronger, can actually surprisingly tank many attacks, and has a on death kill secure.

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RE: More card analysis 03-13-2016, 01:38 AM
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Post Well, the tier system might be a bit controversial. And different types always affect their performance a big deal.
Due to the differences, we use them in a different way and for different purposes. Perhaps, someday you could modify your tier system to better enhance players' knowledge.
By this time, no need to do any argument. Actually , everyone is correct based on their points.

There is never an invincible card/deck. Whether it is strong or weak are just relative to the opponent

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RE: More card analysis 03-13-2016, 03:17 AM (This post was last modified: 03-13-2016 03:18 AM by Xenartrus.)
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(03-13-2016 12:44 AM)Bloodyprokiller Wrote:  
(03-13-2016 12:36 AM)Xenartrus Wrote:  
(03-12-2016 08:20 PM)Agent42 Wrote:  My thoughts.
Other than nefarrans, duma, and ra all fire guardians are elemental. Little garnet is a physical but Deft step cant evade her attacks. Vulcan uses GS. Archmage Arcana can only take out 2 fire opponents if one of them is nefarran. An acer AA cant beat duma, maybe wise can do. Seriously duma's revive works 100% of the time lol and there's also entrust.

Overall we can say that AA has a chance to beat 2 fire cards. But there is also a risk of having asuras where AA can be beaten... I think AA has a higher chance beating 2 against light decks than fire decks IMO

Hmm for virsago, i think i understand why he's only B. Too many imp users, shadow mind rifts and divine shield nowadays. He's still annoying and deadly though lol.

I noticed that you only put sexy type on vulcan. Yes sexy vulcan is a good type
Sexy is a decent type for arcana and virsago IMO
Other than those, sexy is a bad type for the rest of them

Yet, Neo Chaos is S+ =))) which is the same weakness as virsago lol. Ahahah

Good job still tho Smile
Thats cuz neo is faster, stronger, can actually surprisingly tank many attacks, and has a on death kill secure.

Uhuh =)).

Still, good job for the effort and analysis Smile

(03-13-2016 01:38 AM)hanspanette Wrote:  Well, the tier system might be a bit controversial. And different types always affect their performance a big deal.
Due to the differences, we use them in a different way and for different purposes. Perhaps, someday you could modify your tier system to better enhance players' knowledge.
By this time, no need to do any argument. Actually , everyone is correct based on their points.

There is never an invincible card/deck. Whether it is strong or weak are just relative to the opponent

The ace lightbringer has spoken. True Smile

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RE: More card analysis 03-13-2016, 07:12 AM
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Post So sad. Not Acer yet. Have a powR and have a pending trade to get another pow.

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RE: More card analysis 03-13-2016, 07:32 AM
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Post Aglona is the very dp/Tb counter To water decks ^^

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