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Trisi's 5* Guide - Working on
RE: Trisi's 5* Guide - Currently Up to Date - HELP NEEDED 03-20-2014, 06:42 PM
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Personally I would put Powerful as worst type everywere, even below sexy, but that's me Smile
Maybe except Atlas were even Fast is mega slow and Morri becouse of here QS but that's all Tongue

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RE: Trisi's 5* Guide - Currently Up to Date - HELP NEEDED 03-21-2014, 06:12 AM
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Post Type powerful are decent when the card has QS (help for more damage of QS but loss agi), LS (more damage when LS activate) or slow phys card (Behe, Garg, Titan, LoC, Frank, Anubis ...)

Type sexy are decent for SD build, maybe for triple cast build too
Otherwise it is a bad type for all build

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RE: Trisi's 5* Guide - Currently Up to Date - HELP NEEDED 03-21-2014, 06:37 AM
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Post Great job Trisi to me you deserve 5 thumbs up(if I have enough). I have a question too. Why is powerful Marchosias better than Cool? Izzit bcos of damage? It really decreases its agi for bezerk IMO.

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RE: Trisi's 5* Guide - Currently Up to Date - HELP NEEDED 03-21-2014, 06:50 AM
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Post Great guide, Trisi. And great dialogue in reference to it. Good stuff!!

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RE: Trisi's 5* Guide - Currently Up to Date - HELP NEEDED 03-21-2014, 07:03 AM
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(03-21-2014 06:12 AM)Matth Wrote:  Type powerful are decent when card has LS (more damage when LS activate)
Type sexy are decent for SD build, maybe for triple cast build too
Otherwise it is a bad type for all build

You can not triple cast in higher rank. In most cases.
And your LS card may have no chanse to use LS-hit if it is slow. It will just activate the LS and get another fatal hit from fast opponent if he is fast enough and your ls card is slow.

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RE: Trisi's 5* Guide - Currently Up to Date - HELP NEEDED 03-21-2014, 07:04 AM
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Post This is why the only misrebirth type that I like more than new Reborn it's PowerfulR > Berserker. -15% agi is to much IMO. I only tested this with Berserk Titan and PowerfulR Titan, and second one was better becouse Berserk very often was hit twice, or hit even when my previous guardian was killed. (But ofcourse only if you want to use it for yourself for long time, you will probablly never sell this Big Grin)

For Marchosias IMHO it will be CoolR=PowerfulR(both has pros and cons, but i will go more more CoolR)>Berserk.

But that's me, i'm probably only one here that even consider that misrebirth can be better than new reborn type(only with PowerfulR nad Berserek though)

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RE: Trisi's 5* Guide - Currently Up to Date - HELP NEEDED 03-21-2014, 07:25 AM
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Post Agree that Powerful is worst type a lot of the time. However, for LSers, I think it is decent. As long as your card isn't doublehit, you should be ok since the QS kill resets ATB. So with marginal planning, I think its acceptable.

Additionally, and I haven't tested this myself, it might be an interesting thing to try purposefully get doublehit and then put in a super fast card after it so that that card can double hit. It nets you 2 kills, kind of like a QS LS combo would.

Powerful QSers are IMO by far the worst type because of the ATB reset.

But--NICE GUIDE! include the info on the atb reset maybe?

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RE: Trisi's 5* Guide - Currently Up to Date - HELP NEEDED 03-21-2014, 05:33 PM
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Post Oh my. For Titan, PowR and Berserk are both awful, awful things. Whatever type you misrebirthed with Power should have been done the other way around. I don't care what. Agi loss for Titan basically makes that card a waste. I still say, for Titan, Sonic > AceR

For something like as SBird, I like berserk. LS/QS combo with it. Let SBird get hit, put something fast after. Also, a berserk QS card makes a great lead-off card.

I do also like Berserk Morri. Makes it a really strong QS and, with her speed already pretty good, she will likely get an LS hit as well. For Berserk, I would use Atk+20.

I would also say that BraveR is a good misrebirth type when it card DC, but Stalwart cannot.

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RE: Trisi's 5* Guide - Currently Up to Date - HELP NEEDED 03-21-2014, 07:32 PM (This post was last modified: 03-21-2014 07:38 PM by StriderVM.)
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Post I think the whole debate about preferences is just, well preferences. And it's a guide, not a rulebook or something, just to nudge the players into a general direction, not dictate what they should do...... I even think people who force their builds into others are more harmful than helping because it seriously devalues certain types over others..... For me, a Morrighan or Nuada no matter what type will kick butt primarily because of their skills. Tongue

Some things are trash for some but could be gold in others. Like Berserk Titan. I think it rules because no card can survive a Phys+4 from a Berserk Titan unless it has Revive or LS. But some considers it trash because it's as slow as molasses.......

Just chiming in to congratulate Trisi for a job well done for the guide. Smile

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RE: Trisi's 5* Guide - Currently Up to Date - HELP NEEDED 03-22-2014, 09:53 PM
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Post I like that this thread gives us a way to discuss types. Trisi put together a great guide. And we can comment on our feelings for it.

I do agree that any type Morri, March, or similar is a great card.

I don't know if people tried this in a real deck, but how would a lineup like an SBird (maybe even Berserk) followed by a Berserk Titan go? In general, a strong QS card that gets a QS kill to reset the ATB. It then gets killed, but leaves the ATB high so the next card can attack, even against a Sonic Alm Dom. Doesn't net you any positive kills, but seems like it will keep things even (ie 2 kills each side).

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