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Official deck help thread
RE: Official deck help thread 01-21-2014, 06:40 AM
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(01-21-2014 06:23 AM)Remini Wrote:  
(01-21-2014 05:56 AM)Gurrak Wrote:  is this a correct skillset for lamie?
Almighty Serpentress Lamia Sonic(Poison Deck)WIS -20%/QS/Ele+4

and whats the price for cool shinryu in stones?

thanks!

Gurrak. That is the deck help thread...
Please post in trade help in future, I suppose you mixed them up..

Anyways answers: yes and ~30 III


Ahh! I was wondering where my post went...sorry >.<
Yep, mixed them up xD
Thanks Remini! Smile

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RE: Official deck help thread 01-21-2014, 11:36 AM
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Post Hey, I'm in masters coliseum (low rank, I don't have time enough to rush in.. Always B+ but not now..)
My Team:
- Chaotic Graeae middle stoned (Death +2, +3, darkness +4) (know it's wrong I'm looking for a rebirth partner..)
- AceR Cethlenn LS (DR, physh +4, FB)
- Chaotic Siren middle stoned (death +4, poison +4, revive)
- IntelR Levi HS (physh +3, water +4, revive)
- Brave Ladon LS (FB, DEF -20%, psych +4)
- Brave Nike LS (WIS +20%, wind +4, revive)
- Bold Behemoth LS (ATK/DEF +10%, LS, physh +4)
- Chao Nova Titan almost FS (psych +4, earth +4, LS)
- Sexy Ungur (heal, light +3, light +4)
- Brave DT (mecha +4, WIS +20%, psych +3)


Bench:
Chao old Phoenix LS, Brave Selkie clean, Ace Gilgamesh, Mighty int AB pair (I'm going to rebirth him to Wise, is he a good card and a good value?), Cool Puca (leveling), non-bordered MMT pair..

Which guardian should I switch with the ace Gilgamesh? (I know I'm not rich.. I've discovered the forum really late..). Thanks for your time Smile!

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RE: Official deck help thread 01-21-2014, 03:49 PM (This post was last modified: 01-21-2014 04:22 PM by Remini.)
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(01-21-2014 11:36 AM)Exanna Wrote:  Hey, I'm in masters coliseum (low rank, I don't have time enough to rush in.. Always B+ but not now..)
My Team:
- Chaotic Graeae middle stoned (Death +2, +3, darkness +4) (know it's wrong I'm looking for a rebirth partner..)
- AceR Cethlenn LS (DR, physh +4, FB)
- Chaotic Siren middle stoned (death +4, poison +4, revive)
- IntelR Levi HS (physh +3, water +4, revive)
- Brave Ladon LS (FB, DEF -20%, psych +4)
- Brave Nike LS (WIS +20%, wind +4, revive)
- Bold Behemoth LS (ATK/DEF +10%, LS, physh +4)
- Chao Nova Titan almost FS (psych +4, earth +4, LS)
- Sexy Ungur (heal, light +3, light +4)
- Brave DT (mecha +4, WIS +20%, psych +3)


Bench:
Chao old Phoenix LS, Brave Selkie clean, Ace Gilgamesh, Mighty int AB pair (I'm going to rebirth him to Wise, is he a good card and a good value?), Cool Puca (leveling), non-bordered MMT pair..

Which guardian should I switch with the ace Gilgamesh? (I know I'm not rich.. I've discovered the forum really late..). Thanks for your time Smile!

I would actually swap more cards...forgot about to add lvl to your cards. Added that to the template. I assume, most of them are lvl 60, unless those stated as reborn. Masters don't allow Mighty cards, so your AB must be saved for Vets coli.

Deck line-up:
Brave Selkie
Acer Cethlenn
Bold Behemoth
Brave DT
Brave Nike
Brave Ladon
Chao Nova Titan
Chao Siren
Ace Gilgamesh
IntR Levi

When you have reborn your Graeae and skill set(Death+3, MR, Revive) place her where Siren is and put Siren where Levi is. That means to drop Levi then.
Hope you will have some success with this line-up.

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RE: Official deck help thread 01-21-2014, 04:05 PM
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Post My question is about ordering special abilities like QS, LS, DS, SD,MR,FB

Are there any recommended combinations for these? Is there a thread on this?

I'm using LS before QS but not 100% sure where to place DS, SD, MR, FB

It's just a general question on these really

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RE: Official deck help thread 01-21-2014, 06:38 PM
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(01-21-2014 04:05 PM)Marvellous Wrote:  My question is about ordering special abilities like QS, LS, DS, SD,MR,FB

Are there any recommended combinations for these? Is there a thread on this?

I'm using LS before QS but not 100% sure where to place DS, SD, MR, FB

It's just a general question on these really

LS-QS combo is basic.

DS- could be anywhere, pure luck based (you need to guess where physical attack is placed and hoping DS activates).

SD- Anywhere, but SD kill will reset ATB so put a fast card after SD.

MR- Anywhere but the last few would be good idea, hoping your MR can kill opponent's king card.

FB- Anywhere, doesn't matter.

The question you are asking is too broad, and the placement depends on the construction of your deck.

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RE: Official deck help thread 01-21-2014, 06:43 PM
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Post Coliseum: Veteran

Note: I was Masters last week, but only made A+ rank (200ish). Lost internet near the end, but I probably wouldn't have made it anyways.

Deck:

L70 Sonic Odin FS
[Def20/Phys4/Atk25]

L70 Ace RB Cagnazzo FSeMP
[LS/Water4/Wis25]

L70 Sonic Marchosias FSeMP
[AtkAgi10/QS/Phys4]

L70 Mighty Stalwart Merrymaking Titan FSeMP
[Earth2/Phys2/LS]

L70 Ace RB Nuada FSeMP
[LS/Atk20/Phys4]

L70 Sonic Barbariccia FSeMP
[Wis20/Wind4/QS]

L70 Ace RB Morrighan FS
[Phys4/QS/LS]

L70 Ace RB Chariot FSeMP
[Atk20/Phys4/QS]

L70 Cool RB Persephone FS
[MM/Death4/FB]

L70 Ace RB Dwarven Tank FS
[Wis20/Mecha4/AtkWis10]


Auras:

Ikenga Lvl3
Yatagarasu Lvl3

Bench:

L70 Great Sonic Nike Claus (Clean)
[Sap/Wind4/Revive]

L70 Cool RB Biera FSeMP
[Earth4/Wis20/Def40]


Thanks in advance for your help. It is much appreciated. Smile

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RE: Official deck help thread 01-21-2014, 06:51 PM (This post was last modified: 01-21-2014 07:05 PM by Shinespark.)
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(01-21-2014 04:05 PM)Marvellous Wrote:  My question is about ordering special abilities like QS, LS, DS, SD,MR,FB

Are there any recommended combinations for these? Is there a thread on this?

I'm using LS before QS but not 100% sure where to place DS, SD, MR, FB

It's just a general question on these really

LS/QS is a good combo like you say because it gives a better chance for QS to kill after the LS scratches.

Other combos that can be useful are:

Sap/DS: If the sapped card gets in a kill, it is forced to scratch the next card, so DS can dodge that.

Sap/DR: For similar reasons ad Sap/DS. If the sapped card gets in a kill, its scratch is unlikely to kill the next card - DR will do the job without the card using a turn, so hopefully it will strike first against the next card.

SD/QS: Not used very often, but if your SD procs, then ATB will reset. If the opponent's card wasn't killed by the SD, QS can finish the job. I personally don't really care for this combo, but it works for some people.

SD/MR: Same idea as SD/QS. If SD procs and ATB resets, MR can confuse the opponent and let it kill itself. To me this is more useful than SD/QS because SD will more often than not kill the opponent card, so MR will give a chance to have a fresh card kill itself.

Mana Martyr/DR: This is a newer concept that is being pioneered by Mir, and I think it's really creative and has a LOT of potential in chains (props to you Mir! Big Grin). Mana martyr with a leveled Asmodeus is almost certain to prevent the affected card from double-casting, so it is forced to scratch, allowing the DR card to (hopefully) finish it off.

SD as a stand-alone for your finisher can be quite useful too. When you are the attacker, if your last card is killed but SD activates and kills the defender's last card, you still win the battle with 0 cards left. When you are defender and your last card's SD kills the attacker's last card, the attacker will win (so advantage is always for the attacker, but you don't really care about this if you are defending anyway).

I don't think of FB as a skill that pairs with neighboring cards. It does nothing to help if you face a phys attacker but is quite helpful against casters. But there isn't an easy way to predict what card it will come up against unless you are writing down decks.

I've probably missed some combos, but I hope this is a good start!

(01-21-2014 03:49 PM)Remini Wrote:  
(01-21-2014 11:36 AM)Exanna Wrote:  Hey, I'm in masters coliseum (low rank, I don't have time enough to rush in.. Always B+ but not now..)
My Team:
- Chaotic Graeae middle stoned (Death +2, +3, darkness +4) (know it's wrong I'm looking for a rebirth partner..)
- AceR Cethlenn LS (DR, physh +4, FB)
- Chaotic Siren middle stoned (death +4, poison +4, revive)
- IntelR Levi HS (physh +3, water +4, revive)
- Brave Ladon LS (FB, DEF -20%, psych +4)
- Brave Nike LS (WIS +20%, wind +4, revive)
- Bold Behemoth LS (ATK/DEF +10%, LS, physh +4)
- Chao Nova Titan almost FS (psych +4, earth +4, LS)
- Sexy Ungur (heal, light +3, light +4)
- Brave DT (mecha +4, WIS +20%, psych +3)


Bench:
Chao old Phoenix LS, Brave Selkie clean, Ace Gilgamesh, Mighty int AB pair (I'm going to rebirth him to Wise, is he a good card and a good value?), Cool Puca (leveling), non-bordered MMT pair..

Which guardian should I switch with the ace Gilgamesh? (I know I'm not rich.. I've discovered the forum really late..). Thanks for your time Smile!

I would actually swap more cards...forgot about to add lvl to your cards. Added that to the template. I assume, most of them are lvl 60, unless those stated as reborn. Masters don't allow Mighty cards, so your AB must be saved for Vets coli.

Deck line-up:
Brave Selkie
Acer Cethlenn
Bold Behemoth
Brave DT
Brave Nike
Brave Ladon
Chao Nova Titan
Chao Siren
Ace Gilgamesh
IntR Levi

When you have reborn your Graeae and skill set(Death+3, MR, Revive) place her where Siren is and put Siren where Levi is. That means to drop Levi then.
Hope you will have some success with this line-up.

I agree. Dropping Ungur should make a difference since it is skilled with Heal (this skill just wastes time until Ungur is killed. It won't do anything other than heal itself and die anyway).

If you can find a cool Graeae I would suggest coolR over bold. I'm not sure if death or MR are wisdom-based, but a lot of people think they are. So if it's true bold is worse-off than coolR.

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RE: Official deck help thread 01-21-2014, 07:27 PM
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(01-21-2014 06:43 PM)Tyung Wrote:  Coliseum: Veteran

Note: I was Masters last week, but only made A+ rank (200ish). Lost internet near the end, but I probably wouldn't have made it anyways.

Deck:

L70 Sonic Odin FS
L70 Ace RB Cagnazzo FSeMP
L70 Sonic Marchosias FSeMP
L70 Mighty Stalwart Merrymaking Titan FSeMP
L70 Ace RB Nuada FSeMP
L70 Sonic Barbariccia FSeMP
L70 Ace RB Morrighan FS
L70 Ace RB Chariot FSeMP
L70 Cool RB Persephone FS
L70 Ace RB Dwarven Tank FS

Auras:
Ikenga Lvl3
Yatagarasu Lvl3

Bench:
L70 Great Sonic Nike Claus (Clean)
L70 Cool RB Biera FSeMP


Thanks in advance for your help. It is much appreciated. Smile

Maybe try this:

L70 Sonic Odin FS
L70 Mighty Stalwart Merrymaking Titan FSeMP
L70 Sonic Marchosias FSeMP
L70 Ace RB Cagnazzo FSeMP
L70 Sonic Barbariccia FSeMP
L70 Ace RB Nuada FSeMP
L70 Ace RB Morrighan FS
L70 Ace RB Chariot FSeMP
L70 Cool RB Persephone FS
L70 Ace RB Dwarven Tank FS

Basically, I switched MMT and Cagnazzo because Cag is really really slow, so having a few fast cards up front will help boost your ATB early on. I also switched Nuada and Barb to give you more LS/QS pairs, and to avoid having Cag and Nuada back-to-back since they are your slowest cards.

You may find with that many phys cards that your deck will struggle against DS-heavy decks. For that reason you may want to consider swapping Nuada for Beira (she has better overall stats and is faster, but lacks LS - so you would want to rearrange your LS/QS pairs accordingly). I like that Nike has Sap and revive, but I always find it really hard to justify stoning a Great.

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RE: Official deck help thread 01-21-2014, 08:18 PM
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(01-21-2014 07:27 PM)Shinespark Wrote:  
(01-21-2014 06:43 PM)Tyung Wrote:  Coliseum: Veteran

Note: I was Masters last week, but only made A+ rank (200ish). Lost internet near the end, but I probably wouldn't have made it anyways.

Deck:

L70 Sonic Odin FS
L70 Ace RB Cagnazzo FSeMP
L70 Sonic Marchosias FSeMP
L70 Mighty Stalwart Merrymaking Titan FSeMP
L70 Ace RB Nuada FSeMP
L70 Sonic Barbariccia FSeMP
L70 Ace RB Morrighan FS
L70 Ace RB Chariot FSeMP
L70 Cool RB Persephone FS
L70 Ace RB Dwarven Tank FS

Auras:
Ikenga Lvl3
Yatagarasu Lvl3

Bench:
L70 Great Sonic Nike Claus (Clean)
L70 Cool RB Biera FSeMP


Thanks in advance for your help. It is much appreciated. Smile

Maybe try this:

L70 Sonic Odin FS
L70 Mighty Stalwart Merrymaking Titan FSeMP
L70 Sonic Marchosias FSeMP
L70 Ace RB Cagnazzo FSeMP
L70 Sonic Barbariccia FSeMP
L70 Ace RB Nuada FSeMP
L70 Ace RB Morrighan FS
L70 Ace RB Chariot FSeMP
L70 Cool RB Persephone FS
L70 Ace RB Dwarven Tank FS

Basically, I switched MMT and Cagnazzo because Cag is really really slow, so having a few fast cards up front will help boost your ATB early on. I also switched Nuada and Barb to give you more LS/QS pairs, and to avoid having Cag and Nuada back-to-back since they are your slowest cards.

You may find with that many phys cards that your deck will struggle against DS-heavy decks. For that reason you may want to consider swapping Nuada for Beira (she has better overall stats and is faster, but lacks LS - so you would want to rearrange your LS/QS pairs accordingly). I like that Nike has Sap and revive, but I always find it really hard to justify stoning a Great.

Just a thought, you can slot Persephone before Cagnazzo since she has MM. So hoping the opponent won't have enough MP hence scratching your Cagnazzo. DT has weak defense compare to Cagnazzo (physical).

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RE: Official deck help thread 01-21-2014, 08:34 PM
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Post Veteran coli:

Need help for line up and i dont have a bench!

Acer ryujin FS
Acer DT FS
Acer sneguroshka FS
Acer Titania FS
Acer IQ FS
Acer Nike FS
Acer puca (wisebuild)FS
Sonic andromeda FS
Mighty Sonic Iron maden FS
Mighty Sonic cthulhu FS

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